Aaron
This has occured twice in the history of MLB. Please tell me how this can occur and with whom it has occured to. CATCHERS ARE FIELDERS
Answer
i found this online, it's long:
First, there would have to be runners at first and second and no outs.
- The batter hits a fair fly ball that can be fielded by one of the infielders. He would then be out by the infield fly rule, even if no one touches the ball. One Out.
- The runner at first passes the runner at second. The runner at first is automatically out:
7.08
Any runner is out when... (h) He passes a preceding runner before such runner is out;
I remember a ball that Tim McCarver hit in his final year that invoked this rule (it may have been spring training). The bases were loaded and McCarver hit a ball over, I believe, the right field wall. As McCarver ran, he watched the flight of the ball and didn't notice that he had passed the runner at first. He was credited with a single and was declared out. All three runners scored, however. McCarver laughed his way to the bench as I remember.
Two Outs.
- The runner at second is struck by the batted ball as it lands:
7.08
Any runner is out when...(f) He is touched by a fair ball in fair territory before the ball has touched or passed an infielder. The ball is dead and no runner may score, nor runners advance, except runners forced to advance. EXCEPTION: If a runner is touching his base when touched by an Infield Fly, he is not out, although the batter is out; If two runners are touched by the same fair ball, only the first one is out because the ball is instantly dead. If runner is touched by an Infield Fly when he is not touching his base, both runner and batter are out.
Three Outs and no fielder touched the ball
It is important that those steps occur in the above order in the way described.
If the runner at first passes the runner at second after he has been struck by the ball, then the runner at second would already be out and could not affect the runner at first. Besides the ball would be dead, and he could not advance anyway.
If the runner at second keeps his foot on the bag when he is hit by the ball, he is not out. If the ball hits both runners, only the first is out and the ball is dead. If the ball is past, say, a drawn-in infielder, then the runner at second is not out.
Of course, this is an extremely unlikely set of events, which may explain why it (most probably) has never occurred. I mean, why would the runner at first run past the bag at second, in order to pass the lead runner, on a ball that is clearly not leaving the infield? Perhaps, he could have lost sight of the ball or believed that it was traveling further that it in actuality did or thought there were two outs already. In that case, it is imperative for the trailing runner to check out the third base coach and the lead runner to determine what to do, who would help prevent such miscues.
The lead runner would probably stay on the bag, eliminating rule 7.08 (f). Besides, where are the fielders? If a middle infielder-given that the lead runner is hit by the ball-cannot make a play, he would probably be in front of the ball and not behind it.
Let's assume that the play did occur. How would it be scored? I believe it would be listed as an unassisted triple play attributed to the player closest to the ball when it landed. In Tuesday's botched infield fly play, Fernando Tatis dove too late to catch the ball. It was scored a fly out to third, even though the ball was closer to home than third.
Also, I would think there are any number of nutty immaculate triple plays that you could come up with if you wanted to be creative. Why there's rule 7.09(g):
7.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when...(g) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.
Say the bases are loaded and none are out in a tie ballgame in the top of the ninth. The infield is drawn in. The coaches flash that the suicide squeeze is on, but the batter does not see the sign and is swinging away. The runner at second is overzealous and passes the runner at third, who realizes that the batter is swinging away. The batter hits a sharp one hopper to the second baseman, which further freezes the runner at third allowing the runner at second to pass him and be declared out. The runner at first realizes that it is a double play ball and interferes with the drawn-in second baseman before he fields the ball to avoid the double play. Both the runner at first and the batter are out for interference and the ball is dead before the defense touches it. Three outs and no one has touched the ball.
These scenarios are possible but highly improbable since they involve a number of dubious choices by a number of players. They are fun to think about though. And after seeing the Montreal play the other day, I'm starting to believe anything is possible.
i found this online, it's long:
First, there would have to be runners at first and second and no outs.
- The batter hits a fair fly ball that can be fielded by one of the infielders. He would then be out by the infield fly rule, even if no one touches the ball. One Out.
- The runner at first passes the runner at second. The runner at first is automatically out:
7.08
Any runner is out when... (h) He passes a preceding runner before such runner is out;
I remember a ball that Tim McCarver hit in his final year that invoked this rule (it may have been spring training). The bases were loaded and McCarver hit a ball over, I believe, the right field wall. As McCarver ran, he watched the flight of the ball and didn't notice that he had passed the runner at first. He was credited with a single and was declared out. All three runners scored, however. McCarver laughed his way to the bench as I remember.
Two Outs.
- The runner at second is struck by the batted ball as it lands:
7.08
Any runner is out when...(f) He is touched by a fair ball in fair territory before the ball has touched or passed an infielder. The ball is dead and no runner may score, nor runners advance, except runners forced to advance. EXCEPTION: If a runner is touching his base when touched by an Infield Fly, he is not out, although the batter is out; If two runners are touched by the same fair ball, only the first one is out because the ball is instantly dead. If runner is touched by an Infield Fly when he is not touching his base, both runner and batter are out.
Three Outs and no fielder touched the ball
It is important that those steps occur in the above order in the way described.
If the runner at first passes the runner at second after he has been struck by the ball, then the runner at second would already be out and could not affect the runner at first. Besides the ball would be dead, and he could not advance anyway.
If the runner at second keeps his foot on the bag when he is hit by the ball, he is not out. If the ball hits both runners, only the first is out and the ball is dead. If the ball is past, say, a drawn-in infielder, then the runner at second is not out.
Of course, this is an extremely unlikely set of events, which may explain why it (most probably) has never occurred. I mean, why would the runner at first run past the bag at second, in order to pass the lead runner, on a ball that is clearly not leaving the infield? Perhaps, he could have lost sight of the ball or believed that it was traveling further that it in actuality did or thought there were two outs already. In that case, it is imperative for the trailing runner to check out the third base coach and the lead runner to determine what to do, who would help prevent such miscues.
The lead runner would probably stay on the bag, eliminating rule 7.08 (f). Besides, where are the fielders? If a middle infielder-given that the lead runner is hit by the ball-cannot make a play, he would probably be in front of the ball and not behind it.
Let's assume that the play did occur. How would it be scored? I believe it would be listed as an unassisted triple play attributed to the player closest to the ball when it landed. In Tuesday's botched infield fly play, Fernando Tatis dove too late to catch the ball. It was scored a fly out to third, even though the ball was closer to home than third.
Also, I would think there are any number of nutty immaculate triple plays that you could come up with if you wanted to be creative. Why there's rule 7.09(g):
7.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when...(g) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.
Say the bases are loaded and none are out in a tie ballgame in the top of the ninth. The infield is drawn in. The coaches flash that the suicide squeeze is on, but the batter does not see the sign and is swinging away. The runner at second is overzealous and passes the runner at third, who realizes that the batter is swinging away. The batter hits a sharp one hopper to the second baseman, which further freezes the runner at third allowing the runner at second to pass him and be declared out. The runner at first realizes that it is a double play ball and interferes with the drawn-in second baseman before he fields the ball to avoid the double play. Both the runner at first and the batter are out for interference and the ball is dead before the defense touches it. Three outs and no one has touched the ball.
These scenarios are possible but highly improbable since they involve a number of dubious choices by a number of players. They are fun to think about though. And after seeing the Montreal play the other day, I'm starting to believe anything is possible.
Starting runner tips?
BIG_Woody1
So I am starting to try to lose weight and I was just gonna run around the trail in my neighborhood, can you give me any tips on running, how long I should run, how far, ect?
Answer
Before I give you tips:
Running does loose weight, but it builds your legs, like calves and thighs. Your legs might appear bigger after running for a while, and it's just your muscles. Also when you build muscle you must keep in mind that muscle weighs more than fat.
Okay onto the tips:
â¢start out with what you feel comftorable doing, at a good pace. Maybe try a mile your first day. For you maybe an 11:00 minute mile would be about right but it all depends on what shape you are in.
â¢a healthier diet is a key to good running. If you are serious about you should stop drinking pop and eating junk foods. Eat bananas the day you workout, for energy, and pasta the night before you workout. These have carbs which equal energy.
â¢keep hydrated! Water is so important for a runner! You should drink about 8 cups a day.
â¢stretch before and after running. Make up your own stretch routine or find one online that seems to suite you. If you don't stretch you will be very sore. This website below is a good stretching routine to follow;
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_1/126.shtml
â¢run in the right shoes, make sure yours are fit for running and don't hurt your feet.
â¢run when it's cooler outside, like in the morning. Heat is hard to run in and you should only purposely run in it for training.
â¢when you feel comftorable running just 1-2 miles a day, start 3-4. Remember that it's not about how fast you go, but about how far you go.
â¢record your time and distance in a notebook, like a running diary. This will help to see if your times are getting better, or staying the same.
â¢time yourself often, wear a watch when you run. Or you can find other methods of timing but that might be easier.
â¢when you feel like you're going to stop, start skipping. It make look and sound dumb but it really makes you feel like you are doing less work. Start running again when you feel like it.
â¢if you are ever convinced that you need to stop, then make sure you walk, and keep moving! Stoping completely is not good!
â¢know that you mind tells you differently than your body can do. After running for a while you will realize that you can do much more than you ever thought you could.
â¢try to run everyday, don't give up.
â¢if you decide that you want to go into marathons or competitive running, do research on them.
â¢when in competitive running, keep your arms down low, when you are tired they will come up and that is a sign that you are tired. Others will take advantage of that.
â¢if you want company, don't try to run with friends on a trail, but go to a gym and run with them on treadmills. Everyone has a different pace.
Good luck! If you have anymore questions about it you can email me at:
Airn.pero@yahoo.com
Before I give you tips:
Running does loose weight, but it builds your legs, like calves and thighs. Your legs might appear bigger after running for a while, and it's just your muscles. Also when you build muscle you must keep in mind that muscle weighs more than fat.
Okay onto the tips:
â¢start out with what you feel comftorable doing, at a good pace. Maybe try a mile your first day. For you maybe an 11:00 minute mile would be about right but it all depends on what shape you are in.
â¢a healthier diet is a key to good running. If you are serious about you should stop drinking pop and eating junk foods. Eat bananas the day you workout, for energy, and pasta the night before you workout. These have carbs which equal energy.
â¢keep hydrated! Water is so important for a runner! You should drink about 8 cups a day.
â¢stretch before and after running. Make up your own stretch routine or find one online that seems to suite you. If you don't stretch you will be very sore. This website below is a good stretching routine to follow;
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_1/126.shtml
â¢run in the right shoes, make sure yours are fit for running and don't hurt your feet.
â¢run when it's cooler outside, like in the morning. Heat is hard to run in and you should only purposely run in it for training.
â¢when you feel comftorable running just 1-2 miles a day, start 3-4. Remember that it's not about how fast you go, but about how far you go.
â¢record your time and distance in a notebook, like a running diary. This will help to see if your times are getting better, or staying the same.
â¢time yourself often, wear a watch when you run. Or you can find other methods of timing but that might be easier.
â¢when you feel like you're going to stop, start skipping. It make look and sound dumb but it really makes you feel like you are doing less work. Start running again when you feel like it.
â¢if you are ever convinced that you need to stop, then make sure you walk, and keep moving! Stoping completely is not good!
â¢know that you mind tells you differently than your body can do. After running for a while you will realize that you can do much more than you ever thought you could.
â¢try to run everyday, don't give up.
â¢if you decide that you want to go into marathons or competitive running, do research on them.
â¢when in competitive running, keep your arms down low, when you are tired they will come up and that is a sign that you are tired. Others will take advantage of that.
â¢if you want company, don't try to run with friends on a trail, but go to a gym and run with them on treadmills. Everyone has a different pace.
Good luck! If you have anymore questions about it you can email me at:
Airn.pero@yahoo.com
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