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I recently found an ad in a newspaper for puppies. It specifically stated that the puppies were in the price range of $100.00-200.00. I called on one, and recieved a call back the next day and was told that the one i wanted was $1200.00. How can they do this to unsuspecting customers? I mean there is a $1000.00 diff. Does anyone have any info on this?
thanks for your thoughts, but they are not answering my question. I want to know how the prices are determined/
The puppy I am looking at doesnt say anything about being from champion bllodlines or anything of the sort.
The only reason we are looking in the paper is because the puppy is for my mother in law and she doesnt have 1000's of dollars to pay a breeder.
I understand that there could have been a typo, but by a thousand dollars? That is a big diff. I have every intention of visiting the house where it will be coming from. I know the signs to look for.
I understand that raising a litter isnt cheap. But I also know that a litter does not cost over 6000.00 for 4 puppies. We will get nothing with the dog when we purchase it. No crate, nothing. Just a puppy. Here is an example: there are 2 left. They look exactly the same and there is a $700 price diff between the 2. That is not right.
Ok so I just talked to the breeder in question. I was told that the price range listed in the ad was for a deposit only. The ad does not say anything about a deposit. I was also told that the deposit does not come off of the selling price. This is a rip off, and now I know this for sure. Thanks for all of your answers.
Answer
I ask the national median price for dogs of the pedigree I am working with and the quality I am working with. So, I don't ask the highest or the lowest.
I put thousands of dollars into my dogs in health testing and raising my dogs. I put countless hours of time into selecting the best stud for my b*tch and innumerable hours into whelping and raising my pups. I make sure my pups have 24 hour care for the first crucial weeks.
I don't make money selling puppies. I'm about $3600 behind on my last litter... and there's no guarantee I might come out ahead on my next litter.
Price for a healthy litter (not including the price of the dam):
Health tests (OFA, CERF, vWD, cardiac & thyroid, Optigen for PRA) - $430
Pre-pregnancy check up ~ $80
Brucellosis test ~ $60
Stud Fee ~ $1800
Travel to/from stud ~ $840 (1200 miles away, 2 nights hotel and gas when it was $4.20 a gallon)
Increased food ~ $200 ($1 a lb... 60 days gestation + 60 days milk production)
Mid-pregnancy check up $80 (I didn't ultra sound or it would have been another $150)
Whelping box - $120 (6ft x 4 ft x 2 ft with door)
Fleece blankets (8 replacements to add to the dozen I have) $32
Towels (6 to add to the 10 I have) $24
Other supplies (gloves, lube, floss, paper collars, oxytocin) $45
exam and X-ray to determine # of pups $100
We're up to $3811 and there are no pups yet....
I flew my daughter in (summer break from college) to watch pups for 3 weeks so they didn't get squished $320 (a bargain since I'd have had to pay a petsitter $200 a week!!)
Website update (gotta sell the pups) $120
Pups arrive!!
Vet check for dam/pups - $60
dew claws $7 per foot x 28 feet = $196
Puppy formula $12
puppy food $200 (large breed dogs)
Puppy toys $30
(luckily I already owned a couple of puppy pens - $200)
5 days off work $1120 (2 for breeding, 2 for whelping pups, 1 because I hadn't had any sleep in ten days) - I'm a contract worker and don't get vacation.
Advertising - $75
Puppy shots - 7 *18 = $126 (included 6 week check up)
wormer $20
Increased electricity (space heater) laundry, laundry soap, gas to/from vet etc... $100 (3 loads of laundry / day - clean pups are easier to house train)
Newspaper (I don't usually subscribe but I like it to line the pen under the blankets) $20
Puppy potty pads $120 (4 cases at $30/case)
Registration - $40
Total: $6,758
Now, none of this talks about the time put into pedigree research, showing the dog, the cost of the dog, maintaining the dog etc... its just basic responsible breeder costs and it also doesn't take into account the possibility of emergency services ( basic run to the ER vet for oxytocin = $500, c-section $1000-$1800)
It also doesn't take into account the 3 weeks my daughter spent watching pups when I was asleep or at work, the time my partner and son took off work to allow my daughter to sleep or the time any of us took actually working with/raising pups.
And, of course, it doesn't take into account the 100+ applications I screened for the 4 pups that I sold out of the litter nor the time I spent talking to about 2 dozen people to come up with 10 people to "interview" for those 4 pups.
4 pups x $1800 = $6400
1 pup went as the stud fee so that brings my "cost" down to $4958 and 2 pups stayed with me (one to train as a service dog, one as a next generation b*tch to possibly breed if the star align correctly)
In summary - I "made" $1442 on the litter... all of which I got to pay self employment tax on (oh jeepers... I forgot to add in the $$ for the accountant who does my tax returns for my big money making business!!!)
And don't forget.. this doesn't include the costs of housing the dogs I have (fencing, food, equipment) or the normal vet costs or the price of showing the dogs... this is just the BREEDING part.
Somehow.. I think I can make money a lot easier doing almost ANYTHING else.
I ask the national median price for dogs of the pedigree I am working with and the quality I am working with. So, I don't ask the highest or the lowest.
I put thousands of dollars into my dogs in health testing and raising my dogs. I put countless hours of time into selecting the best stud for my b*tch and innumerable hours into whelping and raising my pups. I make sure my pups have 24 hour care for the first crucial weeks.
I don't make money selling puppies. I'm about $3600 behind on my last litter... and there's no guarantee I might come out ahead on my next litter.
Price for a healthy litter (not including the price of the dam):
Health tests (OFA, CERF, vWD, cardiac & thyroid, Optigen for PRA) - $430
Pre-pregnancy check up ~ $80
Brucellosis test ~ $60
Stud Fee ~ $1800
Travel to/from stud ~ $840 (1200 miles away, 2 nights hotel and gas when it was $4.20 a gallon)
Increased food ~ $200 ($1 a lb... 60 days gestation + 60 days milk production)
Mid-pregnancy check up $80 (I didn't ultra sound or it would have been another $150)
Whelping box - $120 (6ft x 4 ft x 2 ft with door)
Fleece blankets (8 replacements to add to the dozen I have) $32
Towels (6 to add to the 10 I have) $24
Other supplies (gloves, lube, floss, paper collars, oxytocin) $45
exam and X-ray to determine # of pups $100
We're up to $3811 and there are no pups yet....
I flew my daughter in (summer break from college) to watch pups for 3 weeks so they didn't get squished $320 (a bargain since I'd have had to pay a petsitter $200 a week!!)
Website update (gotta sell the pups) $120
Pups arrive!!
Vet check for dam/pups - $60
dew claws $7 per foot x 28 feet = $196
Puppy formula $12
puppy food $200 (large breed dogs)
Puppy toys $30
(luckily I already owned a couple of puppy pens - $200)
5 days off work $1120 (2 for breeding, 2 for whelping pups, 1 because I hadn't had any sleep in ten days) - I'm a contract worker and don't get vacation.
Advertising - $75
Puppy shots - 7 *18 = $126 (included 6 week check up)
wormer $20
Increased electricity (space heater) laundry, laundry soap, gas to/from vet etc... $100 (3 loads of laundry / day - clean pups are easier to house train)
Newspaper (I don't usually subscribe but I like it to line the pen under the blankets) $20
Puppy potty pads $120 (4 cases at $30/case)
Registration - $40
Total: $6,758
Now, none of this talks about the time put into pedigree research, showing the dog, the cost of the dog, maintaining the dog etc... its just basic responsible breeder costs and it also doesn't take into account the possibility of emergency services ( basic run to the ER vet for oxytocin = $500, c-section $1000-$1800)
It also doesn't take into account the 3 weeks my daughter spent watching pups when I was asleep or at work, the time my partner and son took off work to allow my daughter to sleep or the time any of us took actually working with/raising pups.
And, of course, it doesn't take into account the 100+ applications I screened for the 4 pups that I sold out of the litter nor the time I spent talking to about 2 dozen people to come up with 10 people to "interview" for those 4 pups.
4 pups x $1800 = $6400
1 pup went as the stud fee so that brings my "cost" down to $4958 and 2 pups stayed with me (one to train as a service dog, one as a next generation b*tch to possibly breed if the star align correctly)
In summary - I "made" $1442 on the litter... all of which I got to pay self employment tax on (oh jeepers... I forgot to add in the $$ for the accountant who does my tax returns for my big money making business!!!)
And don't forget.. this doesn't include the costs of housing the dogs I have (fencing, food, equipment) or the normal vet costs or the price of showing the dogs... this is just the BREEDING part.
Somehow.. I think I can make money a lot easier doing almost ANYTHING else.
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